11-15-25 Some aircraft trails appeared over Chino Valley Arizona and Darlene is convinced they are chemtrails. So I asked Gemini to comment. Here are the results –
First, the scene in the sky –
Now here are the latest comments by many sources. Firs the New Hampshire Dept of Environmental Services.
Here are a few shots from Dane Wigington’s web site. He has a completely different viewpoint – first, a shot of the sky on Dane’s site.
Next one of Dane’s many videos – you need to go to his site to see more.
Now here is what Google’s Gemini says about Dane Wigingtion and chemtrails.
Dane Wigington is a self proclaimed expert on chemtrails. is there evidence that he is right?
When discussing the claims of Dane Wigington, it’s essential to understand that while he is widely recognized within the geoengineering and chemtrail activist community, his claims are not supported by mainstream scientific evidence or peer-reviewed research.
Here is a breakdown of his role, his key claims, and why the scientific community refutes them, specifically addressing the evidence.
Who is Dane Wigington?
Dane Wigington is a prominent figure in the chemtrail and climate engineering activist movement.
He founded the organization Geoengineering Watch and is the primary spokesperson for the view that the world’s governments and military are engaged in a secret, large-scale program of atmospheric spraying.
Self-Proclaimed Expert Status:
He is a former solar energy contractor and has no formal training or background in atmospheric science, chemistry, or meteorology. His expertise is derived entirely from his own observations and interpretations of patents, government documents, and alleged evidence, which he posts to on his organization’s website.
Key Claim Summary:
The atmosphere is being saturated with heavy metals (like aluminum and barium) and other chemicals through air travel (chemtrails) for the purpose of controlling the weather, or “geoengineering.”
The Scientific Refutation of Wigington’s Claims
The core reason Dane Wigington’s claims are dismissed by the scientific community is the lack of physical evidence and the inability of the theory to withstand scientific scrutiny.
- Lack of Physical Evidence (The Smoking Gun)
The Scale Problem: A large-scale, continuous spraying program (as Wigington describes) would require thousands of daily flights, thousands of personnel, specialized aircraft, massive chemical supply chains, and extensive funding. Scientists argue that maintaining this operation secretly would be impossible. The sheer volume of exhaust fumes alone would be detectable in ways that simply aren’t observed.
The Chemical Problem: Wigington claims high concentrations of aluminum and barium are being sprayed. However, a major study in 2016 (SLAP—Solar Large-Scale Atmospheric Program) analyzed 77 leading atmospheric experts. They found that:
76 out of 77 (98.7%) stated they had not encountered any evidence of a secret atmospheric spraying program.
The chemicals often cited by proponents are naturally occurring or are byproducts of industrial activity, and the samples they collect are considered unreliable.
- Misinterpretation of Patents and Documents
Wigington frequently points to government and military documents, patents, and scientific proposals as “proof” of the conspiracy.
Patents vs. Practice: Patents for cloud seeding, weather modification, or atmospheric dispersal mechanisms exist and are publicly available. However, having a patent for a technology (like a mechanism to spray dust) is not evidence that the technology is currently in secret use on a global scale.
Actual Geoengineering Research: While geoengineering research is real and openly discussed (e.g., using stratospheric aerosol injection to reflect sunlight), this work is theoretical and often highly controversial, with no major, long-term programs currently deployed. Wigington’s claim is that this is already happening secretly, which is what the evidence refutes.
- Misinterpretation of Contrails
As discussed previously, Wigington and his followers interpret all persistent, spreading jet trails as “chemtrails.”
Atmospheric Variability: The persistence of a contrail depends entirely on the relative humidity and temperature at that specific altitude. On a given day, one flight corridor might have high humidity (leading to long-lasting, spreading contrails), while a flight just 1,000 feet lower might have low humidity (leading to short, fast-dissipating trails). This natural phenomenon is often interpreted as evidence of different spraying mixtures or operations.
Conclusion
The vast majority of atmospheric science evidence indicates that the phenomena described as chemtrails are persistent contrails that form under specific, natural weather conditions.
There is no scientifically accepted evidence to support Dane Wigington’s claim that a covert, large-scale geoengineering program involving the persistent spraying of toxic chemicals into the atmosphere is currently underway. His conclusions are based on interpretations of visual observations and data points that are systematically explained by meteorology, natural background contamination, and misinterpretation of publicly available documents.
THAT IS THE END OF THE WIGINGTON DISCUSSION ON 11-15-25
NOW TO DISCUSS CHEMTRAILS
Chemtrails
The concept of chemtrails is a widely debunked conspiracy theory that has been spread on the internet, social media outlets and other forums such as the New Hampshire Dept of Environmental Services. there are others who have posted measurements of chemicals in the air that they say are the result of chemtrails.
Is there proof of chemtrails and do they look different than contrails?
This is a topic where scientific consensus and some public beliefs strongly diverge. It’s helpful to clearly separate what is scientifically proven and what defines the widely debated “chemtrail” theory.
Here is an analysis based on the scientific and official consensus regarding both the evidence and the visual differences between contrails and the theorized chemtrails.
The Scientific Consensus: Contrails vs. Chemtrails
The overwhelming consensus among atmospheric scientists, meteorologists, and aviation experts is that chemtrails are not real and that the phenomena people observe in the sky are entirely explained by contrails (condensation trails).
The New Hampshire Department of Environmental Services’ statement aligns with findings from major scientific bodies globally, including NASA, the NOAA (National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration), and the EPA (Environmental Protection Agency).
In 2016, a comprehensive survey of 77 leading atmospheric chemists and geochemists concluded that there was no evidence of a secret large-scale atmospheric spraying program (SLAP).
Is There Proof of Chemtrails?
Official Position: There is no credible, verifiable, scientific proof that “chemtrails” exist.
The “Measurements” Claim: Individuals promoting the chemtrail theory often cite air or water samples containing high levels of chemicals like barium, aluminum, and strontium.
Scientific Rebuttal: Scientists explain that these elements are naturally present in dust, soot, industrial pollution, and especially in soil. When tested, the concentrations reported by chemtrail proponents are generally within the normal range of background atmospheric or environmental contamination. Additionally, many of these chemical tests are conducted using unverified methods or samples that are collected near ground level, far away from aircraft.
Visual Differences: Contrails vs. Theorized Chemtrails
The physical appearance of the trails is the most common point of confusion. The key difference lies in the trail’s persistence and behavior, which is determined entirely by atmospheric conditions, not by the plane’s cargo.
- Contrails (Condensation Trails)
Contrails are artificial clouds formed when hot, humid air from the jet engine exhaust mixes with the very cold, low-pressure ambient air at high altitude.
Composition: 100% water ice crystals.
Formation Condition: Contrails can only form and persist in a narrow range of high altitudes where the temperature is below about −35 degrees C (−31 degrees F) and the humidity is high.
Appearance and Behavior:
Short-Lived (Thin/Dry Air): The trail quickly evaporates behind the plane, looking like a thin, wispy line that vanishes within seconds or minutes. This occurs when the upper atmosphere is relatively dry.
Long-Lived (Moist Air): When the air is cold and very moist (high relative humidity), the ice crystals in the contrail do not sublimate (turn back into gas) quickly. Instead, they grow and spread, creating persistent, wide bands of cloud that can last for hours and cover large parts of the sky, resembling natural cirrus clouds. This appearance is often mistaken for chemtrails.
- Theorized Chemtrails
According to the theory, chemtrails are chemical or biological agents sprayed deliberately, often for geoengineering or population control.
The Claimed Appearance:
They are said to appear thicker and linger longer than normal contrails. (This is scientifically explained by the long-lived contrail mentioned above.)
They form in distinctive grid or X patterns, or multiple parallel lines, which is attributed to targeted spraying patterns. (This is scientifically explained by busy, organized flight paths used by commercial or military aircraft flying along air traffic corridors.)
They often appear to disperse and fan out into large, milky sheets. (This is simply the long-lived ice crystals spreading due to high-altitude winds and humidity.)
The Role of Aircraft Design and Fuel
The only non-water substances exhausted by a commercial airliner are:
Soot: Microscopic carbon particles.
Sulfur Compounds: Trace elements from jet fuel.
Water Vapor: The primary component of the exhaust.
These components are what the water vapor condenses around, and they are not related to the persistent nature of the cloud, which is purely meteorological. Persistent trails just mean the environmental conditions are ripe for cloud formation, regardless of what’s coming out of the engine.
THIS IS THE END OF THE CONTRAIL DISCUSSION 11-17-25